Watch my review here. Fierce Rival I really like my Fierce Rival chambered in 6.5 PRC. I really love your channel. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). They have shot the ruger and no problem but alittle heavy to be packing around the mountain. The deciding factor for me was the trigger, and that 3 of my buddies shoot the Savage. Question about the vanguard vs the bergara. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Is the Sako worth the that premium price though? Twist Rate: 1:11 With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) Regards kjetil A B Strandengen. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. I knew an unknown secret that they did not know, its called grease and oil. Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester - Shooting Times Is it worth it? I looked at the Waypoint locally and thought is was a really nice gun. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. I know its very high end but with a replaced hip and knee, I want anchored shots and believe that cartridge is a slight upgrade on the venerable 300WM. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. Awesome at this price range. Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. TOP DEALS View All Deals. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. I have been trying to get a Waypoint. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. Those that do could at least be highlighted. What about the Winchester Model 70? The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. Yes, thats five rounds as always. Im leaning on leaving my 300 Weatherby for a 300 win mag, and very interested in Seekins. Would love to know your thoughts on the Seekins Precision Havak PH2 rifles. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Performance is really good. Same for Austria and Glock. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. P.S. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. I guess Im looking for an under 2K rifle chambered in a 300 win mag. As I completely dislike sporter pencil barrels. I have the 2020 waypoint. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? Any chance you would do a review on that caliber? The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! Overall Length: 42.3 inches Never bother with a Winchester M70, because I thought it was old fashion. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. I got it in 6.5 creedmoor for deer hunting. You made your point. The also Cerakote the barrel which lowers the need for oiling the metals on your gun, and protects it in rainy or otherwise wet conditions. I was unaware of the QC issues with the Cross. I was really looking at the Waypoint before so would you recommend that now or another? I sent my Rival back for repair and after six weeks it came back with the same problem. (Live in northern Alberta.) $699.00. Ive shot heavier .308s with more felt recoil than this guy. Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. Fit me like a glove. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester. enough shoulder for secure mounting. So far really like it FYI. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. I like the cleaner lines without the mag sticking out. Im thinking a 6 creedmoore with a proof carbon barrel, MDT onyx chassis, timmey trigger but cant decide on the action. Hello Jim, Your videos and information are amazing. Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. Gunwerks builds great guns, but I just dont see them as being THOUSANDS of dollars better than a Fierce, Weatherby, Seekins, etc. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. To this day when I pull that out for fun it still shoots tight groups. Im in love. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. Thanks for your thoughts and time! I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. What are your thought on the Ruger precision? I love it. I figured I could get an AR rifle with Sub MOA accuracy that could maybe hit 2 birds with 1 stone. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. Jim great reviews. Hi Jim, I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. Is the bergara name worth it? ISO: 20ga (semi-auto, sxs, and o/u in order of priority), Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. And true to their ads, it is a sub-MOA shooter. Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. Jim, Ive had three X bolts in 6.8 western in the past 8 months and all shot well but velocities were a good 100 fps or more below what was stated on box on three different brands. Franchi Momentum Varmint Elite .224 Valkyrie 24" 1:7 Bbl TrueTimber Prairie/Midnight Bronze 7+1 Rifle 41712. Thanks in advance. I seriously am not sure how you can improve on it. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. I decided to to send Fierce an email basically telling them how disappointed I was with the tight chamber and extractor design issues and failure. Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. Amway if anyone has one opinions please. Momentum Elite - Franchi Firearms | Franchi Shotguns and Rifles Would love to hear your review and/or thoughts on military surplus and/or rifles you and friends first started on. Jim, This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. LOL. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. Keep the vids coming, I look forward to seeing them. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. My experience as well Tim! Can't see enough difference to make a difference. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. . Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. franchi momentum for sale on GunsAmerica. Buy a franchi mome Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $500, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $850, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $1,600, Click here to jump to the section on premium rifles, a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American, ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it, Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint, Guaranteed accuracy of 3/4 MOA. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. Barrett, AI, etc. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles I have mostly x bolt now and really like them but dont think onyx chassis is made for brownings so thinking the tikka t3x but wanted your opinion. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. what makes it a Bergara? Thank you for your great videos especially on moderately priced optics and arms. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. I am between a Bergara B-14 Hunter and the Weatherby Vanguard. 80lbs maybe. But the chassis is the killer for me. Savage 110? It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. I went ahead and ordered a scope today, I had a leupold vx5 3x15 and sent it back, and today I ordered a Burris Signature HD 3x15, so I will see how they compare. A lot of states dont allow semi-autos for big game hunting so check your regs. Could you add another tier or two? I would love to hear your thoughts on the savage impulse big game. And have heard mostly good things on it, so I kinda think it was mostly a caliber issue for that gun. Sure, its not always possible. I am over 50 now an i have owned and hunted 21 different rifles, that will be all brands from Rem 700, Browning , tikka, several Blasers and Sakos, Heym and some more. Agreed on the MarkV. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. 180 gr Remington tipped core lokt and its in the bullseye out to 400. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. Plus all the pros of the above B-14 review. I was very impressed at the response I got from John and can tell you Fierce is a company that stands behind their products. The forend felt fat and a bit chunky, and the detachable mag looks like it could get in the way when carrying, hunting, using rests, etc. Gun #: 932303293. But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. Im looking at my first hunter and precision rifle that I can take to the range once a month and go on 2 or 3 hunting trips per year (pig/deer) mostly in California or surrounding states. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. I still think the 2020 Waypoint is just a better gun overall. All are captive so you wont lose them. The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. Ergonomics * * * * Or, even better if your choice cost less. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. Way sub-MOA. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! You lost when you bought junk because it will always be low cost junk and you lost when you went to purchase something of quality because the price went way up because you fked around too long before you realized you should have bought quality to begin with when it was still relatively affordable. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Buy FRANCHI MOMENTUM For Sale Price - New and Used - In Stock So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. Newer is not always better. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. The rings came with friction paper. Winchester Xpr or Franchi Momentum ? In 270. | Rokslide Forum Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. Thank you for your time and effort. I also have ignored the Winchester M70 for exactly the reason you mentioned. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. It would be a tiny bit more expensive, but really not much. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Jim, Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . Hi Jim, Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. Thanks, I enjoy watching you on YouTube and its really nice to see your reviews before purchasing guns and related stuff. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. Thats a nice collection. Beater rifles go until they cant. Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. Gun #: 999725884. In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. Synthetic as in black plastic, to be clear, not as in carbon fiber or some other fancy stuff. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. Hear hear. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle - YouTube 0:00 / 1:38 New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle NRApubs 129K subscribers Subscribe 148 24K views 1 year ago American Hunter Executive. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. killed three whitetail with it this past season. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. Even on safe, the bolt can be manipulated to chamber or eject a round. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. 3. and three-stage safety. stock not sticky yet? Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. This ammo is usually an average accuracy performer for me, but dang did the Franchi shoot it well. Thanks. They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. Phil. The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. I have been looking at the savage 110 ultralite 6.5 creedmoor. Great review. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. Man I really love your reviews! Christensen MPR The MPR looks fantastic, but I do feel like its a little bit of lipstick on a pig. You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Seems like a solid gun for the money and straight pull seems fun. Most of the videos I see you get two shots touching and a flier on the mod 70. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Removing the bolt, however, is easier thanks to a release lever located on the side of the action. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. Action is very heavy and clunky. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. Its a crisp, clean, single-stage trigger with no slack or take-up and a nice break. Have you reviewed one yet? It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. I really like the Springfield waypoint but it is out of my price range but definitely the nicest rifle Ive held! I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. can you give me your thoughts on I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? A stock upgrade is also an option, Stockys is producing several different carbon fiber drop-in stocks for the Vanguard/Howa rifle line. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. Looking past your racism when you buy once and buy quality you never cry about it, your just damn glad you made the right decision because often a lost opportunity is just that, it never comes again in life. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. I would love to see you review a Lithgow la102 from Australia. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . then I'll stick with my Tikkas, they make me happy! Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. Franchi Momentum Elite | Rokslide Forum Highly recommended. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once.
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